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Lydia Nottingham's avatar

i’m ~cyborg but view beeminder as a ~brittle/stopgap environmental intervention & changing house/job/city/… as a robust one.

Daniel Reeves's avatar

Great writeup! I wonder how much of this concern is solved by Beeminder's want-can-will safeguard. Namely, you shouldn't use a commitment device for a goal unless you (all of you, giving all parts of you a fair voice) definitely *want* to do the thing, you definitely *can* do the thing, but historically, left to your own devices, it's not the case that you *will* do the thing.

Maybe you will say that when your parts are aligned you either will do the thing naturally, or else there's a good reason you won't?

But the want-can-will test says to reserve commitment devices to cases where that somehow fails.

In which case perhaps our disagreement boils down to the question of whether that ever truly happens, that you genuinely want to and can do something, yet you somehow don't.

Or a milder form of the disagreement could be that it's rare and people should really think twice before resorting to commitment devices. I tend to think it's not so rare and that asking yourself the want-can-will questions sincerely is sufficient. Of course you should also pay attention and reassess. Beeminder's all about maximizing flexibility about what you've committed to, to the extent possible without defeating the point of committing (which I think is a surprisingly large extent -- basically a max of one week being on the hook for something that turns out to have been a bad idea to have committed to).

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